How I Helped My 9-Year Old Daughter Stand Up to “Mean Girls”

I spent the better part of elementary school dodging one girl. She was mean only in the way that girls who are nine years old can be. She had found a way to use her words as weapons, to corral those less sophisticated than her to adhere to her every word as if she were a walking, living breathing deity. And yes she managed to wield all this power at the tender age of nine. For some strange reason, I was the unfortunate target of her anger, jealousy and frustration and thus spent many a lunch period crying over my peanut butter and jelly sandwich while she convinced my friends not to sit near me and time pacing the school yard alone, counting the years until I’d have autonomy over my destiny and not be relegated to sit in a classroom with girls who could be so vicious.
Suffice it to say, I’ve carried this sense of distrust towards other women throughout my life, which has ultimately colored my adult relationships. Of course with my daughter I wanted her to have a clean, blank slate and form her own judgments about girls based on experiences that were not tainted by memories of my own. And to that end I was doing pretty well, until she hit the nine year mark. And that’s when it started.
My daughter , once a joyful, bubble of exuberance stepping into the car after a long day at school, halfway through third grade began to greet me at pickup with a sullen face. When I’d ask her what was the matter she would say nothing, which as a nine year old is code for being overloaded with feelings she simply couldn’t process and find a way to articulate to me. I let it go. I didn’t want to meddle, I didn’t want to be that mother who micromanages her daughter’s every thought and interaction. And then finally she told me it was a girl. One girl in particular who was mean. In her words “really mean”. Each day when she arrived at school plucky, eager to seize the day, this girl would manage to suck the happy right out of her. My daughter proceeded to tell me, if this girl orders weren’t heeded she would proceed to systematically get the rest of the girls against her, would hurl insults at her on a regular basis and was simply making her time at school a living nightmare.
Initially my mama bear instincts were unleashed and I wanted to call this girl’s mother’s and give her my two cents—but I thought better of it and restrained my impulses to launch into a full on attack. Here is what I told my daughter, the best thing to do is walk away. Don’t give in to her threats, don’t listen to her negativity. I know it’s hard to deal with this and while I want to make it all go away—getting through this situation will prepare you for dealing with future relationships and friendships. This is a great lesson in understanding the kinds of people you want in your life and those you need to stay away from.
Did I get it right? I sure hope so.
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Girls are so mean in a way that cuts like nothing else. I am so sad you had to go through that and now you are having to watch your daughter do the same. I don't know if I would be able to show the restraint and brilliant composure you have. That lesson is one that your daughter is lucky to see from her mom. Who knows what the right answer is, but you must be doing something right because I think you're a fantastic person now and I'm sure I would of loved you at 9 too:)
Elise, babybites
My son was being bullied. What resolved it would probably work just as well with girls. I insisted that the school deal with it or they would see a lawsuit. The Dean of Students brought the bully-ers into his office. To save my son the stigma of his mom coming to the rescue, he said that the teachers were noticing the problem. And he said that the next time they were in his office there would be a policeman sitting next to him. The problem stopped immediately. In our case, they weren't truly bad kids, just testing how far they could go.
Sorry Mom. I did that. It did not work. Intrinsically all girls suck. Take it from a girl that had that problem from 4th grade thru to 10th. It only stopped because I switched schools to a nerd school on a college campus for the last two years.
I don't know about that advice. Sure walking away is what most mothers would say, but i have had the only way to truly stop a bully is to fight back. If other girls are so easily swayed to the bully, it is because they are fearful, given almost any other alternative, they will take it, and that is where your daughter comes in. It is also important to note that often bullies can "dish it out but they can't take it." If nobody has ever stood up to her, now is the time. Once the shoe is on the other foot, the bully might actually learn something...besides what does your daughter have to lose? In fact, this could become a defining moment in your daughter's life, the moment she learned to stand up, not just for herself, but for what she believes in.
As a female bullier and bully victim (all rolled into one) I can tell you walking away works in most cases but some girls just wont allow it. Because walking away dilutes their power which they can't allow. So by all means tell your daughter to walk away but if she has to walk away for a period longer than a month yuo should get involved because things may becom physical.
I tried not giving reactions to the bullying I experienced in junior high. All that happened was that I became very withdrawn and retreated into my books and didn't come out until I found myself at college, where 'they' weren't for whatever reason. I do think it's a definining oportunity for your daughter as it's taken a very long time to learn how to stand up for myself, and a demanding boss and manager was what did it and I'm better for it. I wish your daughter all the luck and let her know she's not alone, that she has a cheering section!
Angela
As a mother of 7- and 9-year-old daughters, I respectfully suggest that while your intentions are the best, you are not equipping your daughter with the tools she will need to deal effectively with this and other female bullying. I know -- I'm dealing with this same issue with my girls (and dealt with it as a child and teen and, like you, this has colored my relations with women to this day) and it's heartbreaking and incredibly difficult. I'm currently reading a book that's helping me work through this with my daughters and so far, I'm finding some good advice. It's called "Little Girls Can Be Mean" and I'm suggesting it here for other moms and educators dealing with this issue. I'm in no way affiliated with the authors or publisher, I'm simply trying to suggest a book that includes tips and tools that I have not seen elsewhere and that I wish I had had as a girl. I wish you and your daughter the best in dealing with this and hope that together we can bring this issue to light and address it as a society. Here's a link to the book on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Little-Girls-Can-Mean-Bully-proof/dp/0312615523
Walking away was the worst advice I was ever given. It just made my bullies see me as a coward and tease me even more... not good advice. Stand up to them.
Number 1: Go out and buy the book "Queen Bees and Wannabe's" by Rosalind Wiseman. Read it cover to cover. Highlight it. Then, discuss the important sections with your daughter. This book is the brain behind the movie "Mean Girls", must-see viewing with parents for ALL girls starting in 3rd grade.
Number 2: Bullies like to bully because inside they are extremely insecure, and they pick on the one kid they think they can intimidate. By intimidate I mean control the one kid's emotions; instead of happiness, they want to make you feel unhappy, unsure, scared, fearful, powerless. Remove their ability to control emotions and you remove the thrill provided by the bullying.
Number 3: empower your daughter. Go over and over again with your daughter the true motivations of the bullier. Help your daughter find at least one (ideally 3) other good friends to face the bully. Tell the principal and all involved teachers in detail about the bullying. Enlist their help in monitoring the situation and get them to agree to let your daughter have at least one of her "allies" with her at all times. When the bully strikes, your daughter should not ignore the bully. Instead, she should practice saying something like, "Gretta, I get it. You don't like me. I really don't care. But you need to stop."
I've been through bullying that was beyond horrifying with 2 daughters, both are at the end of high school now. You sound like a great mom. Good luck with this!
Empower your daughter with courage. Walking away might work, but if it doesn't, she needs to be able to stand up to the girl and say, "You don't control me, and I am not afraid of you. I will not do what you want because I am my own person and I make my own decisions. Other people fear you, your friends (say their actual names) fear you. I do not fear you. I feel sorry for you, that you have such low self esteem that you have to order people around and make them scared of you just to make yourself feel better."
I know that's a lot for your daughter to remember. Have her rehearse it at home - it will help gain confidence, just as rehearsing a speech before delivering it to the class. Have her work on her stern voice - help her find her authoritative voice. Stand up to this bully now! Have your daughter openly and publicly say these things to her. Putting a bully in their place and getting down to the real reason of the bullying will put a stop to it.
Passive approaches *might* work, but the passive approaches are usually still done in fear. The fear needs to be eliminated. As adults, we see that there's no reason to fear a 9 year old girl, but to another 9 year old, she might as well be a man dressed in black standing on a dark street corner, waiting for a victim.
Don't be passive about bullying. Teach your children the reasons that other kids are bullies, how and why not to fear them, and how to stand up to them.
I'm sorry but "walk away" and any other high-road advise aren't going to help her at all.
Bullies go fir soft targets. The only thing that really works is a jail-house mentality, take down the biggest enemy there, or at least fight BACK.
If your daughter confronts the girl face-to-face, figures out her mean-girl insecure motivation and uses it to disarm her, and in doing so breaks down the established scenario between bully and bullied, she will come out on top.
I was severely (including physically) bullied from age 11 through to 16, before I started hanging out with my older brother's peer group, outside the weird little bubble that is a group of peers in a single school. With a different attitude and some new-found guts, the lead girl that was my tormentor for all those years became nothing more than a sad little thing who was taking out her family issues on the weakest target she could find. I remember saying at the time "I wish I could have realized sooner, how little any of this mattered".
The way to put a stop to this if its happening at school is to INSIST that the SCHOOL get involved and call the parents of all involved. My kid and myself as well were bullied. In my case I fought back against the bully and kicked her tail, that got me respect and peace. In her case, she had me and I made sure it stopped. The school hated to see me coming and it got to the point I told the parents if it didn't cease immediately I would pursue a restraining order against their kids. (which would have meant that kid was outta her school!) I also didn't hesitate to call a parent and ask for their email address so I could send them the nasty things their kids were sending mine. Trust me after a few episodes that went that far, the stuff stopped. She's grown up and out of school, but I find it interesting that some of those 'bullies' have since apologized..
The best treatment of a bully is to confront them head on, walking away doesn't do diddly.
I agree with the others. As someone who was bullied because my parents would discipline me for fighting I put up with it for years. I tried walking away, I tried ignoring it, I tried telling my parents (who made it worse). It finally stopped when I found that my father could punish me any more and took the nastiest one out. I stood up to them and they backed off. Your daughter needs to call the girl out publicly. Stand up to her and face her down. It is the only way.
I am a survivor of girls so mean...it's all I can still do not to describe them with severely offensive expletives! The scars don't heal, but they fade. I hope my 8 year old is spared the misery I endured, and I'm grateful to be able to guide her through what could very well be 10 times worse. I pray for the our children.....for times are serious.
Step number one, you've done it.
Step two - Never. EVER. EVER let them see you cry. You wanna cry inside? Sure, but laugh out loud at the bully on the outside. NEVER EVER let anyone see you cry, because then they KNOW that you're hurting and they'll pile it on more.
Step three - if it still won't stop - or becomes truly abusive, bring in the big guns - Mom and any/all school officials (other than the obviously incompetent teacher). Since my child went to a Lutheran parochial school it was the principal, the chairman of the board of education, the Pastor, the District president, and the President of the Synod. All cc'd on the letter to the parents explaining EXACTLY what I would do publicly during their child's Confirmation if he did not cease and desist immediately and cease all communication/contact with my daughter.
Worked like a charm.
I have 7 and 9 year old daughters, but have yet to face this issue and hope that it doesn't come up for us as it is a shame that it ever comes up and is painful to endure.
I was bullied for a short time in elementary school and tried the ignoring them advice as I am not a fighter. The bullies fed on that to the point that they were confronting me and threatening physical violence. The resolution for me was to align myself with the kids that scared the bullies, older kids from my neighborhood. They let the bullies know that if they messed with me, my friends would be back for them. That was the end of it. I was never touched and the harrassment stopped. To my knowledge the threats from my friends also stopped those bullies from bothering others as the bullies knew that the older kids were looking for an excuse to pummel them.
I think something similar would also work if your daughter's friends banded together to outnumber them as suggested by another commenter.
If the harrassment continues, I also liked the idea of involving the school with the "teachers have noticed the bullying" excuse to keep the tattle tail teasing to a minimum.
Good luck!
I am pretty amazed at all the violence. I grew up in the states and although I was bullied-didn't seem to mind. Some girls threatened severe violence and even chased me with their cars. It was excepted-they even broke one sweet girl's jaw. I have always hated violence but I hate even more apathy. Adults need to be the active voice when young girls aren't being educated at home about being a bully. I would call the school and let them know. I would also involve the PTA and if that didn't work-talk to the parents. I would do anything to teach those kids that social etiquette is an important part of life and how you treat people is important. Your daughter uf fine turning the other cheek but you as a mother set the standards for how she grows up. Those are something to fight for.
I am pretty amazed at all the violence. I grew up in the states and although I was bullied-didn't seem to mind. Some girls threatened severe violence and even chased me with their cars. It was excepted-they even broke one sweet girl's jaw. I have always hated violence but I hate even more apathy. Adults need to be the active voice when young girls aren't being educated at home about being a bully. I would call the school and let them know. I would also involve the PTA and if that didn't work-talk to the parents. I would do anything to teach those kids that social etiquette is an important part of life and how you treat people is important. Your daughter uf fine turning the other cheek but you as a mother set the standards for how she grows up. Those are something to fight for.
I am pretty amazed at all the violence. I grew up in the states and although I was bullied-didn't seem to mind. Some girls threatened severe violence and even chased me with their cars. It was excepted-they even broke one sweet girl's jaw. I have always hated violence but I hate even more apathy. Adults need to be the active voice when young girls aren't being educated at home about being a bully. I would call the school and let them know. I would also involve the PTA and if that didn't work-talk to the parents. I would do anything to teach those kids that social etiquette is an important part of life and how you treat people is important. Your daughter uf fine turning the other cheek but you as a mother set the standards for how she grows up. Those are something to fight for.
I am pretty amazed at all the violence. I grew up in the states and although I was bullied-didn't seem to mind. Some girls threatened severe violence and even chased me with their cars. It was excepted-they even broke one sweet girl's jaw. I have always hated violence but I hate even more apathy. Adults need to be the active voice when young girls aren't being educated at home about being a bully. I would call the school and let them know. I would also involve the PTA and if that didn't work-talk to the parents. I would do anything to teach those kids that social etiquette is an important part of life and how you treat people is important. Your daughter uf fine turning the other cheek but you as a mother set the standards for how she grows up. Those are something to fight for.
I am pretty amazed at all the violence. I grew up in the states and although I was bullied-didn't seem to mind. Some girls threatened severe violence and even chased me with their cars. It was excepted-they even broke one sweet girl's jaw. I have always hated violence but I hate even more apathy. Adults need to be the active voice when young girls aren't being educated at home about being a bully. I would call the school and let them know. I would also involve the PTA and if that didn't work-talk to the parents. I would do anything to teach those kids that social etiquette is an important part of life and how you treat people is important. Your daughter uf fine turning the other cheek but you as a mother set the standards for how she grows up. Those are something to fight for.
Hi,
I don't think that your daughter will be able to manage this without some adult intervention, not from you, but at school. Someone needs to speak to the ring leader, let her know that her behavior is negative and unacceptable and that the school will not allow her to manipulate other kids into isolating any atudent
Bullying isn't "normal" behavior. It is very aberrant, sick behavior. The bullies are usually disturbed. They need mental health services, and their victims often have difficulty getting the help they need to deal with the situation. Known bullies require a LOT of supervision, which is best done by the school. Victims need to be encouraged to come forward and report the bullying. There are too many suicides that can be traced to viscious kids bullying and the severe emotional pain that children feel when they are rejected and isolated by their peers. It is sort of ironic to me, because I went to a Catholic school and bullying was simply NOT tolerated there. We had a bully, male, at one point and those nuns let him and the entire school know, that behavior wasn't happening, period. They nipped it right in the bud and he was made to express remorse (even though he didn't really look sorry, the fact that they had the control and he didn't was what mattered, and it was great to see the former bully made to apologize, nobody wanted to emulate that. The boy he'd bullied was also sort of promoted to sainthood for his "Christ like grace when mistreated" but most of us didn't want the opportunity of exhibiting Christ like grace, through mistreatment... Any way the point I am trying to make here is that ADULTS need to be the ONLY authorities at schools and bullies need to be put into their place by the adults, children cannot handle bullies on their own.
I was bullied, too, and what I found that worked like a charm was to make a joke out of their comments. Just act like they're kidding around.
I'm so thankful to homeschool my children. Yes, they spend time with other children, just in smaller groups where there is adequate adult supervision over both physical and verbal interactions. I can't imagine sending my 8-9 year-old into a situation that will ruin their self confidence and their day every day. True, it's important to know how to handle many different situations, but how many adults would knowingly put themselves in a bad situation? If bullying is at it's peak during the public school years, then don't be afraid to consider alternative educational programs. Isn't your child worth it?!
I'm so thankful to homeschool my children. Yes, they spend time with other children, just in smaller groups where there is adequate adult supervision over both physical and verbal interactions. I can't imagine sending my 8-9 year-old into a situation that will ruin their self confidence and their day every day. True, it's important to know how to handle many different situations, but how many adults would knowingly put themselves in a bad situation? If bullying is at it's peak during the public school years, then don't be afraid to consider alternative educational programs. Isn't your child worth it?!
I, also, was a victim of bullying starting at age 9. And I was told the same thing: Ignore them, smile at people and they will like you. Today I walk around with an idiotic smile on my face sure that everyone around me hates me. Perhaps your bullying wasn't as severe, but ignoring my tormentors only made them escalate their attacks in order to get a response. I agree that crying is the worst response possible, but when the attacks escalate to pushing, sitting someone in the water fountain, or throwing food it's hard to do anything BUT cry. I taught my daughters the art of the withering stare. Pick out the ringleader, and stare at her as though she is the biggest idiot in the world and you can't believe how idiotic she is. When she asks, "What are looking at, nerd?" continue to stare. If she approaches, say, "If you lay a finger on me, I WILL report you for assault." Then ask the rest of the group, "What is your problem that you would so willingly follow such a bad example?" And continue to look at them as though expecting a answer. It demonstrated that my girls were operating from a position of strength, intelligence, and confidence--not meekness and reaction. And it worked. I also taught them to set a good example by standing up for others who are being bullied and being kind to others. We practiced various scenarios so they would recognize opportunities when they presented themselves; such as helping someone who has dropped all her books instead of laughing with the others.
Walking away solved nothing...it only made things worse for me!
As my grandfather would say - If someone hits you, turn the other cheek, if they hit you in the other cheek, get'em! Paraphrased of course. While it is good to pretend it doesn't bother you, your daughter needs a strategy on what to do when turning the other cheek doesn't work. This should be both what to do and what to say. If someone wants an argument - pretend to agree with them (as long as its not picking on someone else). If they don't like your clothes, smile and say "I do, you don't have to wear them." If they are physical, take self defense. This will give her confidence and the ability to defend herself if needs be.
I remember the bullies from my elementary and middle school. I was tiny and waif like. An easy target. I stood my ground and decked the biggest bully in the school yard. I had to repeat the scenario in middle school.
Mostly your daughter's confidence will make the bully back off when bullying it isn't working. Bullies are bullies forever - and she will encounter them in work too, she needs a coping strategy and the confidence to stand her ground.
A true bully will not let your child walk away. My youngest daughter was a high school high honors student and would see bullies surround and pick out "weak" girls. My daughter would wait and find the bullies in a stairwell which did not have security cameras or teachers and told them if they kept picking on their victim she would beat them down-mind you my 5' 10" 175 lb daughter was not afraid and never had to fight because the bullies were all talk and when confronted by someone who would not be intimidated they backed down. This tactic does not work with kids who come from the ghetto/hood/bad part of town irregardless of race. They will cut you and do not care because they don't have a daddy or if they know of him he be in prison-and there mother is a drug addict/whore who is never home. You cannot reason with children who have no moral compass. That leaves building your daughter's self esteem, work with school personnel, talk to another girl from her school to look out for her or if nothing works to remove your child from the environment. Good luck to you.
Teach your daughter to fight back. Just as you would if attacked by an animal or predator.
It is horrible to have to stoop to their level but those who don't get abused well into adulthood.
Surely you don't want your daughter to be the only one staying late to finish the teams work at her otherwise impressive corporate job or worse be the office scapegoat.
Even the most impressive companies and positions have office mean girls and bullies.
In a public place not in the bathroom...
Look the bully right in the eye and loudy tell her to grow up!
Regardless of what she says back it is all about letting the bully' and their followers know the bully is not powerful and your daughter is not afraid. Practice with your daughter a I am ready to fight you stance and confident delivery. I would pre-authorize my child to use the F word.
The bully needing to save face may hit or push your daughter then your daughter will pound the crap out of her to the best of her ability in return.
Bully's do not like to fight and it doesn't matter if your daughter wins or loses, no one can call someone a wimp who fights back. The Bully will move on to a more willing victim.
The school will break the fight up before anyone gets truly harmed. Unless you plan to move the bullying may follow her all the way into HS and at that point things can get dangerous - best to nip it in the bud now.
I woud make sure your report the bullying to the school in writing so if your daughter does get into a fight she has proof she was not the aggressor.
* I had this happen in 7th grade and I only had to act willing to fight and that was it.
I have never heard anyone say they regretted standing up to a bully.
I have heard many adults say they wish they woud have fought back.
I was reading a bullying book that I found in my local library (sorry, can't remember the title!) had a really good come-back for bullying. The harassed girl said to the bully "does it make you feel better about yourself to pick on other people"? I feel that is a good question because it's a no-win question for the bully! I practice/ role play this with my 8 yr old if she mentions being bullyed.
I found a book at the library (sorry don't remember the name) and it had a great line in it. It said to ask the bully the question "does it make you feel better about yourself to pick on other people"? I think that's a great no-win question for the bully. I role play/ practice it with my eight year old because she has encountered bullies already.
Worst. Advice. Ever.
"Walking away" teaches your daughter only to be passive, that she is powerless, and reinforces the idea that she is helpless.
I was a "new girl" in my high school and was shy because I didn't know anyone. Oh yeah, I suppose I was nerdy too. Two groups of girls started picking on me around the same time. I was a little surprised because I didn't know any of them and was wondering why they singled me out. I remember in gym class, one of the tough chicks (she was in the alternative program and a "burn out") started threatening me out of the blue. I actually looked at her incredulously and asked her, "are you talking to me? I have no idea what the hell you're mumbling about but it better not be about me." I think she was surprised that I talked back and didn't feel threatened (even though I truly was nervous). Her minions smirked and didn't say anything. I think I called her a name and that was it...never heard a peep from her again. The other 2 girls who started in on me shut right up when I told them everyone thought they were dykes. (i know, I know, but this was back in the 80's when being gay wasn't fashionable) They stopped bothering me too and there was no violence.
I also had a friend was teased mercilessly until her sister (also my friend) grabbed one of the wimpy boys in the clique and pushed him up against a locker threatening to beat him up if she didn't stop. Not only did he stop, but he actually became friendly and protective of my picked on friend. Never back down to bullies - in childhood or adulthood. I am a very kind, soft-spoken person, but I do not put up with intimidation from anyone, including bosses or colleagues.
Turn the other cheek is a non-sense call when it comes to children as this term applies to adults. Children should be disciplined and bad behavior admonished. Why should you risk your child at all throw the bully to the wolves. Rinse and repeat…
I have a problem with a girl at school. Im nine and so is she. Shes mean to me. One time I was playing outside with my friend on the school grounds. she came over and tried to talk my friend out of playing with me. At a birthday she called me fat infront of all my friends.....I really dont know how to deal with her on a daily basis and she is meaner and meaner everyday...........:(.
I have a problem with a girl at school. Im nine and so is she. Shes mean to me. One time I was playing outside with my friend on the school grounds. she came over and tried to talk my friend out of playing with me. At a birthday she called me fat infront of all my friends.....I really dont know how to deal with her on a daily basis and she is meaner and meaner everyday...........:(.
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I am sure you are well meaning in your advice to your daughter, but I'm afraid it's not so simple as just 'walking away'. If it were, it would be relatively easy to combat bullying....just walk away. The fact is that many of these bullies will not allow their targets to walk away and in fact will go out of their way to seek them out and make their lives miserable. It's not fair to expect a child to endure day after day of isolation because some vicious girls have chosen to exclude her from their social circle. This has got to have a negative effect on the child not only from a social standpoint from from an academic standpoint. How can you learn in that kind of atmosphere? I really think the 'hold your head high and ignore it' approach falls short in these types of situations, because the perpetrators need to be stopped. That's where the school needs to step in. Every school needs a well defined and consistent policy for dealing with bullies. The best thing you can do for your daughter is teach her to stand up for herself. She doesn't have to get nasty or stoop to the level of the bullies, but she does need to be firm and confident. Even if the bullying continues, she will have gained a sense of empowerment just by standing up to the mean girls. At that point the school needs to step in, with law enforcement on standby if need be, as someone else mentioned.
Good luck and God Bless you for trying to help your daughter instead of just laughing it off as 'kids will be kids' like so many parents!
Why would title this "How I helped my... daughter"? Your last sentences are "Did I get it right? I sure hope so."
So you actually have no idea, at this writing, if it helped. You're sharing an anecdote, not advice.
You can't build a boat in the middle of the lake. It is very difficult to put the worms back in the can. Truth be told the only person who can bring anyone down is yourself. Bullies will bully..but to truly teach a child or ourselves to be confident and strong and that the world may at times be hard..but they atre worth more than the energy they put into that paticular bully. I understand that they may be an ideal..and not alway realatic. But I began to take my daughter skateboarding, and involved in martial arts and other items..she now is carrying confidence with her. And no matter the situtaion she is starting out with sure footing.
As a victim of bullying, I have to disagree with your advice. I started getting bullied by another girl in the 6th grade, not just verbally, but also physically. My mother told me to ignore her. To walk away. I started throwing up every morning before school. I ate lunch by myself. I didn't go out to recess after lunch, but stayed in the cafeteria and helped clean up because if I went on the playground I would get verbally attacked by the bully and her minions. After I was jumped by this girl and two of her friends at school, we were all called into the principal's office. I was told I was going to be suspended for three days as well. Although I hadn't fought back, I had written a note to a "friend" calling the bully a b**** after the attack, which she gave to the bully, who gave it to the principal. My mom pulled me out of school and I spent the next two years in private school. When I transferred to the public high school, the bullying picked up where it had left office. She stomped on my foot so hard that it broke bones. I ignored it for another two years, until she pushed me in the locker room, and I snapped and stood up for myself. I say snapped, and I mean it. It was like an out of body experience that I had no control over. After the bully realized that I wasn't going to take it anymore, she stopped targeting me. Which isn't to say that she wouldn't still body check me in the hallway, but at least the every day mental/verbal/physical abuse stopped. Had I not stood up for myself and fought back, the bullying would have continued until the day we graduated. In my personal experience, ignoring a bully doesn't work.
I was bullied, and both of my children have been bullied, and I know what works and what doesn't. WALKING AWAY DOES NOT WORK. Neither does ignoring it. While we all want our children to take the high road, and be kind and open-minded individuals, unfortunately you have to fight back to stop a bully. I have boys-and believe me, at times they can be just as bad as girls-depending on the type of bullying.
My older child was shy, unusually bright, non-athletic, and was bullied at times. The only time it stopped was when he fought back. I didn't realize this until after he finished elementary school. When he was pushed in to a locker in 7th grade, he didn't push back, but used some choice words for the bully. It stopped. Now in college, he was harassed at a recent party when he came home for vacation (sometimes it never ends) He walked up to this bully-who outweighed him by at least 50 pounds, and said "Then do something". The jerk backed off and left him alone for the rest of the night.
My younger son is very outgoing, a jock, a typical student and extremely popular-you wouldn't think he would have a problem-but he did. When he was about 9 or 10 he became friends with a little boy who had a very good friend already, and this other little boy did not like my son moving in on his territory, so to speak. He began to torment my son-calling him names, physically pushing him and hitting him. Which is almost comical given he was about a foot shorter than my son-(he was big for his age and the other boy was very small.) Not knowing what to do, my son asked if he could hit back. I said only if you can't move away fast enough-but what really bothered my son was what the boy was calling him. My son had been bitten in the face by a pitbull when he was a toddler, and he has a noticable scar on his nose, and the boy kept calling him Michael Jackson nose, and a freak. I asked my son if he responded in kind ,and he said no-he didn't know what to say. Bless his heart, he couldn't think of anything mean to say! Well, I pointed out that this boy was very short, and he might want to say the next time he was called MJ nose, "Well at least I'm not a midget". My son said it ONE time, and the bullying stopped. And they are still friendly, and that was many years ago.
Now, for those parents who may be horrified at this, I have to ask you-would you rather have another child torment your child, and shred their self-esteem to shreds? Of courst not. And no-neither of my children turned into horrible people.But they didn't remain victims-and it's an important lesson.
I hear how polite and kind they are all the time. I didn't create monsters-but I did empower my children, and I taught them they are not doormats. Sometimes, you have to fight back-it's called self-defense.
I am a therapist for adolescents. I deal with kids who've been bullied, and also with bullies. Not all bullies are insecure and feel bad about themselves. Many are simply kids who've been allowed to get away with bad behavior and do this because its fun to them. Walking away when its happening daily does not work. Rather, it proves to the bully they are allowed to do whatever they want again. I generally suggest that the parent start a paper trail. Call the principal and document that you did. Ask what they will do about it, and request a follow up letter. Keep in mind however, that schools generally have little they can do. Usually the parent has to threaten a lawsuit against the bully and his/her parents. Money speaks, and that's usually the way things change. One thing that does often help, depending on the age of the child...9 might be a bit young for this...is to handle it with humor directed at the bully. Speficially "please continue this as I'm kind of poor and the lawsuit I'm going to bring against you will make me rich." This does often work on high school kids, but the bullied adolescent has to be able to say in a way that defuses rather than excellerates the issue.
I really want to state again: As a therapist, I can tell you that walking away is absolutely the wrong way to deal with daily bullying. It empowers the bully and weakens the self confidence of the bullied. I again encourage you to create a paper trail. Best of luck!
walking away is good stuff when people are yelling their heads off at you. it makes them look stupid and drives them crazy. when i was a kid it can up with two strategies that have worked most of my life: talk back/get sassy/give them a one way ticket to cutdown city. whatever you want to call it. a great comeback makes you look good. the second was to take the challenge. if they said they wanted to beat me up. i stood firm and said "go for it". more often then not, they backed down. if they came at me, we both had no idea on how to fight so it was a bunch of hair pulling but i never got challenged again. whenever i ignored them, walked away, withdrew into myself, hurried out of rooms when they entered, i knew i looked like a weak easy target and it just kept going. stand up! it will help you through life too.
My son was the victim of a bully last school year. I told him basically the same thing...walk away. Do not attempt to even interact with the other boy because it will just escalate. This didn't work. Finally, I told him to ask the boy if it made him fell better to pick on people...if it made him a better person to treat someone else like dirt...and also told him to tell this person that what he was doing was just picking on people who wouldn't fight back because he's not worth it.
FINALLY, it stopped. The boy, they still go to school together and actually play baseball on the same teams, has resorted to being nicer... at least to MY KID.
Walking away is wrong. Bad behavior needs to be called out and fought back against. Always. You can turn the other cheek but that means you are still facing them.
That is the dumbest advice I have ever heard. The link that I followed to get here said you solved the problem. You didn't do anything. Not that you necessarily could, but that advice is worse than worthless. The only upside is now I know to never bother clicking on a "momtourage" (site name should have been a clue) article again.
My daughter had an issue at school (4th grade) with a boy making fun
of her because she was chunky!!
She would come home crying and of course you never want your children to fight or be ugly to people but in reguards to this situation I sat her down one afternoon and talked to her about it and simply told her to look this boy in the face and tell him ~ you no your right I am a little chunky and if I choose to I can go on a diet and loose weight and if you choose to be nice and choose better words you could have great friends in your future!!
Oh and when your thinking about what I said remember ~ GOD does not like UGLY!!!
Well the next day the boy came to school gave her a note of apoligy
( which she still has in her Jewelry box 10 years later )
They became good friends and he never made fun of her again!!
Not saying this is the case in every situation but it worked in this one!!!! <3
I work in the school system and unfortunatly kids can be be very cruel at times!! :(
~ L ~
Shockingly enough, I am dealing with mean girls already in Kindergarten! My daughter is very outgoing and smart and makes friends very easily. She made a new friend this year in her class (we will call her Sara) and they became inseparable. There are plenty of playdates at each others houses and the girls really seem to enjoy each other. Problem is, this girls best friend from last year (lets call her Michelle) is also in the class, and doesn't like it when anyone else gets any attention from Sara. Michelle, who is all of 5 years old, starts telling Sara on a daily basis that she hates my daughter (yes, she uses the word hate all of the time). Sara and my daughter sit together on the bus on the way home from school (they are assigned seats together) and Sara starts telling my daughter that Michelle hates her. So, my daughter starts coming off the bus crying daily because of this. First off, I am not impressed with Michelle, but I am also not impressed with Sara. I think it is mean and hurtful of her to tell my daughter this stuff. Finally, the daughter of my best friend (we will call her Jane), who is also a classmate of my daughters, goes home the other day and tells my best friend that Sara told her she has no intention on inviting my daughter to her birthday party. Jane, who is a very sweet little girl, knew better than to tell my daughter such a hurtful thing, and instead went to her mother (my best friend) with this as she felt it wasn't very nice of Sara to say. I don't want to tell my daughter what Sara said to Jane because I don't want to hurt her self-confidence, but also because I don't want to make Jane a target as well (I know my daughter will confront Sara if she knows because she did confront Michelle).
Needless to say, this girl will not be setting foot in my house again, nor will my daughter be playing at her house again. I feel badly because my daughter thinks she is just wonderful, but I refuse to allow her to be subjected to mean girl behaviour already! I expected this in the pre-teen and teen years. I never expected it in Kindergarten with a bunch of 5 and 6 year olds!!!!
I walked away. I ignored the bullies. I did everything that you are "supposed" to do. It didn't help. I was bullied from 4th - 8th grade, at an all-girls school. Walking away makes the bullies think you are weak & they have won; or it gives them a fun challenge -- how far can they go before you cry? It finally stop when I hit the bully in 8th grade. I think if I had stood up much earlier, when it started, it wouldn't have needed to get physical.
Walking away is very very bad advice. I speak from experience.
I too was the victim of bullies growing up, I was a quiet, shy girl and moved a lot, so I was bullied all through high school, but became a strong, independent, outspoken adult. I worried my daughters would go through the same, my oldest is me, quiet and shy, but so funny and sweet to anyone who bothers to get to know her. It was my sweet, 9 yr old middle daughter who was always the queen of the classroom who was bullied! I had to step in because the bullying had mounted to verbal threats ("my brother is going to wait for you after school and beat you up") to the bully actually tripping my daughter in class and causing her to fall face first on the ground and chip a tooth. The girl was sent to mandatory counselor meetings and there has been no bullying since.
I took this bullying problem to the school too & made them aware that this was NOT the first incident of bullying and although my daughter had shown GREAT restraint (is taught this in her martial arts classes), I informed them that they were failing to protect my daughter from harm and at the same time were forcing her to be in a position to physically defend herself & as usual they "talked" with the child and assured me it was being dealt with. A week later my daughter informs me that the tough kid messed with her one too many times and she laid him out on the playground in front of everybody. Of course she was sent to the office with the "victim" (aka BULLY) and was given a "talking to". The funny thing about this situation is that to this day I have never been called by the school about this event. I guess it's been taken care of BUT NOT BY THE SCHOOL :)
I was picked on every single day. It was a nightmare. I used to go to bed with a stomach ache dreading going to school the next day. It would have been better for me to be home-schooled or just drop out of school altogether. The bullying never stopped and there is no way to make those people stop doing what they do. If it's happening to your kid you won't know how bad it is because he or she will try to not be weak about it and come crying to you all the time. If you knew how bad it really was you might pull your kid from school just to keep their sanity. I have run into people from school I haven't seen in twenty years and they still give me that look. Their mouth smiles and their eyes laugh and they whisper to the person they are with. I am still the kid that gets picked on and I am a grown woman. It never ends.
I do not think you did the right thing. Bullying is getting to be too much today and walking away does not answer the question or help your child stand up for herself. I think think the right thing is to have the girls talk. Find out the deal. Most of the time the bully has issues at home as well. Telling her to walk away does not support your child, does not help the situation, does not confront the issue, and does not absolve the issue. Telling her to walk away? What message does it send to the bully? The bully wont care if she walks away.